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Leo Biddle's avatar

Star Trek too. Seasons 1 to 3 aired 1966 to June 1969 a month before 'the landings'.

Easy to forget how big that was at the time and how much it normalized the nonsense.

Look at all the truthtellers promoted on stage & screen. How many of that circle-jerk of fake-awake Sophists have made their position known on perhaps the most screamingly obvious fraud of all time?

It's not a purity test, it's a litmus test and they all fail.

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Mick Wyatt's avatar

When I look back to growing up in the 70’s I used to love Lost In Space and Space 1999. As you say, we were conditioned to believe it all without question.

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Leo Biddle's avatar

Same, Star Wars shaped much of my childhood and arguably personality/worldview..

I recently learned that George Lucas (as well as Steven Spielberg) were part of the Laurel Canyon (60s/70s music and movie Jim Morrison, Charles Manson, CIA MK Ultra) scene.

Also a young Lucas allegedly filmed the guy stabbed/sacrificed at the Rolling Stones concert, immortalized in the Bye Bye American pie song:

Oh, and as I watched him on the stage

My hands were clenched in fists of rage

No angel born in Hell

Could break that Satan's spell

And as the flames climbed high into the night

To light the sacrificial rite

I saw Satan laughing with delight

The day the music died

Tell me what were the odds that George Lucas happened to catch that on camera?

Zero. The answer is zero. And it's such a small number that control the many, that I think we can take them!

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Rob Dubya's avatar

Brilliant, thanks for that tidbit of information Leo. I have never heard that regarding Lucas and the rolling stones gig murder. Never actually heard anything about it at all. And i thought I'd heard it all. Cheers

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Leo Biddle's avatar

Yeah, it gets even weirder when many claim the Stones were playing Sympathy for the Devil as the teenager Meredith Hunter was supposedly slain by 'Hell's Angels', but the media overlay the song Under My Thumb in every depiction of the event.

A sober analysis of all that took place in Laurel Canyon indicates some freaky shit was going on, or whoever writes the script wants those that take the time to question narratives to think there was.

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Tryfon Farmakakis's avatar

All nice and well researched but the part about the "traditional notions of a vaulted sky, a firmament" etc is total bs. (And please don't try to move towards the flat earth bs, you should have realized by now that it is a very successful psyop designed to make dissidents with religious preconceptions look like fools). Nobody was waiting for the moon missions to confirm the reality of the universe. It is quite obvious even from low earth orbit, except if you question that we have achieved that as well, in which case I would have a great deal of fun watching you trying to debunk it. The gist of the story is that it is extremely difficult for human beings to leave the near premises of Earth (physically), and it might even be impossible. Even if we do ever achieve the technology to overcome the problems of radiation, microgravity, meteoroids and vast distances I still suspect that there are things that tie our survival to this planet that we are far from understanding. And I also suspect that the powers that be do realize some of it.

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Francis O'Neill's avatar

There were those traditional notions.

Footage from and within the International Space Station is riddled with similar problems.

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Leo Biddle's avatar

Ah yes, the 450 ton piece of metal and green screens suspended magically in the air because of complicated mathematics that the plebs can never understand, only experts.

Lolz alive!

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Tryfon Farmakakis's avatar

Actually it is not that complicated, but I guess not everyone have the same capacities or willingness to learn.

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Michelle Lobdell's avatar

I would love to know what that thing is on my app that tracks it across the sky every day and labels it "ISS". Watching it traverse the twilight sky is one of my favorite things to do, especially on a -4 or -5 evening.

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Tryfon Farmakakis's avatar

The fact that some footage has been doctored can have many possible interpretations and be hiding possibly even more than one single agenda. But that doesn't mean one jumps immediately to his favorite one without some serious thinking first and before examining all the available evidence. If math and physics is difficult for you to understand then find an acquaintance of yours that does and you trust and listen to what he has to say.

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Leo Biddle's avatar

Thanks buddy. I've been doing the serious thinking since I was six. Had no problem academically acing every test presented. Just never agreed with much of it, frankly lots of it appeared to be nonsense.

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David Quinn's avatar

One thing I've noticed about genuine truth seekers as opposed to paid trolls, is that genuine truth seekers are usually humble and openminded. Having realized they have been duped for so long, they rarely abuse others seeking the truth, whereas trolls tend to come across as arrogant and are prone to getting bitchy and personal. They like to play the man and not the ball (no pun intended).

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David Quinn's avatar

you don't have to be religious to realize that we cannot be on a spinning ball moving at phenomenal speed, in four different directions, you just have to be able to think straight.

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Tryfon Farmakakis's avatar

LOL, it's obvious that you don't have a clue about physics, but more importantly it seems that simple logic is hard for you as well.

When you drive in your car with 100mph this is quite a phenomenal speed for human standards, still if the road is smooth and the driver good, you don't even notice. Now just open the door and jump out and see what happens to you afterwards. That's just one example employing the same principle with the rotating and traveling Earth you should have been able to think by yourself. Never mind airplanes...

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David Quinn's avatar

There you go. Start with an insult.

If you are sitting in a car that is taking a turn at 100mph, you notice.

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Tryfon Farmakakis's avatar

How? By looking outside? What if the object you are looking is really far away. Would you notice? Come on man, think...

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Alexander Rimmer's avatar

What do you call someone arguing with a fool?

Never argue with a flat earthers.

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SPONGEWORTHY47's avatar

apparently none of you have read any GOVERNMENT/MILITARY PAPERS. They all have the words "based on a flat earth model"...

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Inverted Reality's avatar

Look into the Tychos theory, you will probably find it fascinating.

https://book.tychos.space/

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Alexander Rimmer's avatar

A good read but an unfortunate name the Tychos theory, as it's not his theory at all. In fact it is just the observable pattern of many other star systems like ours.

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David Quinn's avatar

You would pushed towards the door and you would feel the force.

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Tryfon Farmakakis's avatar

I am talking about a car that moves in a steady straight line. Listen, you can invent a thousand childish counterarguments if you just wish to remain stuck to your pre-selected belief. Science, i.e. rationality, is for people who are willing to think and determined to get where evidence and logic takes them. You don't ring to me like the type and I think this exchange is futile. Still, others might read it and get something from it, but I think I wasted enough time.

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David Quinn's avatar

Well done, you made me laugh. Yes I fear you have wasted your time. The problem with your analogy, is that the spinning ball model is not based on moving in a straight line. A better analogy would have been the waltzer in a fairground, with the waltzer and all the other amusements moving upwards, while the whole fairground itself is moving in another direction. Take care TryitOn. Better luck next time.

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Alexander Rimmer's avatar

Bad analogy, that would be the equivalent to the car with no roof or windows. A train moving around a very slight curve (0.01 degree per kilometre) would be a more appropriate analogy but still not quite right.

Good luck in your endeavours David.

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David Quinn's avatar

But the car doesn’t have any windows or a roof in the globe model. And my waltzer analogy includes the multiple directions we are supposedly moving in whereas your train doesn’t.

Bert of luck to you too Alexander

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StuartPS's avatar

"pre-selected belief":

You do realise that ALL " flat earthers" were originally "globers".

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Parag Joshi's avatar

My question to flat earthers. The spherical earth rotating around the sun , as other planets do too , is a theory that can predict when the next total solar eclipse will occur and also where from on the globe you will be able to see it. Not only the next , but also all the future solar and lunar eclipses can be precisely predicted. Now, flat earthers, do tell us when the next total solar eclipse is happening , based on your freaking flat earth theory.

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Dan Phillips's avatar

It's not just eclipses. Flat earth cannot predict the position of anything at all in the sky. Whereas the globe earth predicts everything. We can verify that ourselves by downloading the Sky Map app and pointing our phones at the sky, and the app will show the positions of everything we see: the stars, the planets, sun, moon, and so on, from any location in the world. It can also predict the positions of everything in the future and in the past. That ability to make predictions is what makes globe earth science.

Flat earth cannot make predictions, so it is not science. It is a best an interesting hypothesis.

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ShoutyMum's avatar

I do love a space travel debunk.

I quite liked the fact that both Buzz Aldrin and his dad were both army aviators and his mum was called Marion Moon. A nice little MM calling card 😉

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Francis O'Neill's avatar

And yet Buzz seemed so unhappy about it.

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ShoutyMum's avatar

😂 I’m sure the cash in the bank cheered him up.

To infinity and beyond 🚀

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Francis O'Neill's avatar

But that's just it, it didn't seem to. They all seemed a little broken by the experience.

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ShoutyMum's avatar

Yes I agree although it seems that Buzz was most at ease with his predicament and remained in the public eye. His backstory seems the most ‘groomy’. Not even sure if that’s an explanation. I don’t know what I believe at this point, I’m open to anything. My brain is 🤯

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Francis O'Neill's avatar

He does seem to parade the masonic side of things a little but it would have been even more odd if they had all become recluses.

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Gareth's avatar

Again a great piece of work. Thanks for sharing.

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Francis O'Neill's avatar

Thank you, Gareth

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Amat's avatar

I must say the comments on the YouTube video of the press conference with the three astronauts were priceless. Looking at the video I have never seen such repressed, uneasy individuals in my life, they looked defeated. And I would agree with one commenter who said it looked like a hostage video, when I was younger I really did believe they had gone to the moon! I feel as if I am living in a real life Truman Show.

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Francis O'Neill's avatar

There is a 1978 film called Capricorn One which follows the story of three astronauts being forced at the last moment, to fake a mission to Mars.

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Darrin's avatar

Excellent movie starring O.J. Simpson.

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Dean Fraser's avatar

https://www.thebearandthefox.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/cardboard-rocket-final.jpg

I'm actually on my way to the moon, right now: a bit of a long weekend. Just get away from it all.

Chill for a bit. Should be back around 1.00pm, Monday afternoon. [splashdown in the North Sea, and

beat the early rush hour on the Forth Road Bridge], home in time for tea.. See ya'll .!!

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Francis O'Neill's avatar

You're going to have to share your design with NASA.

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Alexander Rimmer's avatar

Dean would love to but he has sadly lost the technology.

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Tanner Brecheen's avatar

Great article Francis, and the end quote "There are...breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truth's protective layers...", very revealing. Reminds me of the "bodyguard of lies" touted by churchill. Repeated themes and mantras of a secret religion seem to pepper the landscape of history. This particular theme, the ascending into truth by degrees, around pitfalls designed to capture the uninitiated, it does seem to be a prominent one doesn't it. Cheers!-tanner

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Malcolm Pryce's avatar

Great piece, Francis, thanks.

The thing that strikes me most about the Moon landings, and similar massive events like 911, is the almost superhuman audacity and self belief of the perps.

They didn’t just fake the Moon landings, they went out of their way to make it obvious to us. Seemingly without fear of ever being brought to book, somewhat like a farmer who does not fear being sued by his cows.

They could have had some of the greatest Hollywood model makers create their spacecraft, but instead they presented us with rubbish models that look like they were made on that kids TV programme Blue Peter.

I struggle to believe that ordinary mortals could have such self-confidence.

I know a lot of people in our movement believe in Satan, but I’m not there yet.

All the same, When I look at the middle managers of the Cabal: Schwab, Gates, Kissinger, King Charles, Soros at al. I see just mediocrities. There’s no way these people could organise or plan or have the scale of ambition to create these events.

I think the least one can say is, above the afore-mentioned mediocrities, there must be a small coterie of people directing events who are utterly unlike us.

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Francis O'Neill's avatar

Thank you Malcolm. The special effects in 2001 A Space Odyssey are certainly more convincing and it was made in 1968.

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Malcolm Pryce's avatar

Indeed, and as I’m sure you are well aware, the belief is widely held among rabbit hole dwellers that Kubrick entered into a Faustian pact with the Cabal and shot the moon landings. Then hid numerous clues in The Shining and Eyes Wide Shut.

The most obvious fakery of all is the space station in which the actornauts have ludicrously gelled-up hair to indicate they are in zero gravity and wires holding them up that are clearly visible in some shots.

And then there are the occasional news stories about actornauts on the space station getting water in their suits, while space-walking (!). We all know the external shots of the space station are shot in a massive swimming pool and so occasionally the suits leak. NASA doesn’t have to release these images—we’d be none the wiser if they didn’t—but they do. Revelation of the method.

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Evelyn K. Brunswick's avatar

Thanks for these two articles, I really enjoyed them, especially since I'm familiar with Dave's Moondoggie.

This is actually one of those issues I find myself getting really angry about, because denying humanity the wonder of exploring what's out there is one of the great crimes against humanity. One reason for it of course is because it denies people hope for a better future - thus better enabling subjugation. They want people crawling in the gutter, not looking up at the stars. I could go on, especially with fakery further afield (Mars rovers etc.).

One of the problems they will face, however, is the old thing about one lie requiring another, and then another. They would have to either justify never going (back) to the moon, or making the footage look exactly the same. Same with what they say Mars looks like. At some point, they reach a limit, and the original lie is exposed. They are going to be reaching that limit soon (Artemis), and this is why they must be panicking with the thought of running out of time and thinking about an endgame. The same applies to the progress of technology. At some point people will say stuff like 'how come we don't have fusion power' and so on. Their suppression can't last forever and we should take heart by that.

One of the lovely things, though, is that at some point they will be forced to confront the fact that there's always a bigger fish. I think they already know this, though. There is life out there, other intelligences, and they really, really won't take kindly to the cabal. If I was them, I'd say it was long past time for a final intervention.

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Right Side of History's avatar

Look at the 2007 “photo” and the 2012 “photo” below it. North America is a lot different in size between the 2! And sometimes the photos are green and other times blue. Clowns! And very few question it. Sheep minds believe what they believe because they have been told what to believe. Very few bother to investigate or question official narratives. The bigger the lie the easier the sell. Funny how NASA “lost” all the footage from the moon landings and even threw away the technology used to go to the moon. Now one of man’s greatest achievements…ask yourself why they would lose and destroy that information. Logic and basic critical thought tells you it will not stand up to modern scrutiny.

Watch American Moon (link below) to see all the fakery. Since I began investigating this subject several years ago I found out Mars is filmed in the largest uninhabited island in far northern Canada. It’s called Devon Island. Someone posted the official NASA images from Mars and the ones from Devon Island and the hills, mountains,, landscape, rock locations, etc. was an exact match! They just use a red lens filter to continue the psyop. There is also a video someone posted of the remote controlled vehicle that sends video back from Mars and amazingly there is a flying insect that lands on the robot! Did you know insects live in that harsh atmosphere?! There used to be (could be removed by now) images on google earth where you could zoom in and see the NASA station with housing pods, the remote controlled rover, and even vehicles in Devon Island.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/GY5ajOa834Ci

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Alistair P-M's avatar

That was very interesting, I'm a 'moon landing sceptic' and there were lots of points there that I hadn't heard before or considered. Thanks for the mental exercise!

Last year I wrote about Flat Earth's role in delegitimizing dissent and scepticism (https://open.substack.com/pub/alipmcg/p/flat-earths-role-in-the-modern-crisis) and I touched on the moon landings a bit, because Flat Earthers often also question the moon landings, which is a FAR more legitimate question than flat earth. Someone who enjoys your work might find it interesting.

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