As you all rightly say, more than anything else the media’s constant propaganda, lies and cover-ups have been the main reason the majority of people believed (and still believe) there was a pandemic. Breaking people’s trust in the mainstream media is the biggest obstacle to opening their minds to the fact that most things are not what they seem.
Your point about being able to disagree with people and still have a civilised discussion is key.
Prior to 2020 if a friend/family member had mentioned they were going to have an injection or medication for travel and I told them I had read that it wasn’t necessary or made people sick I’m fairly certain their response would have been ‘that’s worrying, send me the link’ and not ‘are you a doctor? are you anti-science?’
Thanks for another really enjoyable and thought-provoking discussion 👍🏻
I only have a couple of personal stories relating to it, one was with a family member regarding her daughter having the HPV vaccine and the other was with a friend having malaria medication for a holiday. They both looked at the information and decided not to have them. However that was quite a few years ago and long before the relentless ‘trust the science’ propaganda of recent times.
That’s a good point about the regular childhood vaccine injuries, the truth has been almost completely suppressed for decades.
That's an interesting point Mick about advising people about injections prior to 2020. I think if it is true then it demonstrates the incredible power of the propaganda campaign of 2020. The only doubt about that is the fact that many parents had previously spoken up about the damage regular vaccines had done to their children and due to the propagated paradigm they were largely ignored and ridiculed.
I would warn people off rabies shots long before I realized the full extent of the scam. Some listened, but fear took most and they'd take "just to be safe"!
The ‘just to be safe’ reason is used by many parents when vaccinating their babies/children, they are under tremendous pressure to be seen as a ‘responsible parent’ by following the recommended vaccine schedule.
It’s interesting you mentioning rabies. I remember in the 1970’s there were adverts about the dangers of rabies, all the kids were petrified to go near a stray dog 😀
You'd think I would have seen a single case in 20 years working with wildlife and street dogs in the middle of a red zone.... Also Cujo and numerous horror movies reinforce the view. It's retarded and you'd think people would listen to someone who objectively knows what they're talking about, but no apparently GPs and academics in the UK glean more from Google than someone that's walked the talk their whole life [arms in air emoji]
Again a really fascinating and well articulated chat; it’s important you continue to have common sense discussion that isn’t misrepresented.
EGI
My own observation on this stems from the fact that I know a trans person reasonably well. The first time I met them was at a dinner; my daughter prompted a discussion about how dangerous it was for biological males to play womens rugby. I immediately noticed the eyes of the trans person widen. I was confused until about 6 months later I discovered that he (previously she) was trans. As soon as I realised, it was obvious (small frame, feminine features, emotional) but I would never have questioned their gender because of the way they presented (facial hair, cropped hair, drinking pints etc). Sadly they also have many unresolved mental and physical health issues, presumably from hormones. Therefore i knew exactly what Miri is getting at in her article.
Schools
I think the education system is absolutely key in pushing all the narratives they want future generations to believe. From my own experience of looking at my children’s homework, it was alarming (sexuality stuff in year 4) but the seemingly innocuous things; space, the environment, history are just vehicles to cement untruths in their minds. Me and another mum managed to get the Head to stop playing Newsround in assembly when Devi Sridhar was coercing children to get covid jabbed. One teacher played a speech by Greta and then started crying, my kids were eye rolling and piss taking so hard. Then every child in school came home with a book about the Queen’s Jubilee echoing Leo’s observations.
Football
It’s interesting what Francis says about footballers promoting the jab. I think this was deliberate as the fan base were the most likely to be nonchalant about a bad case of the flu. They needed them onside (no pun intended) which is why I believe the city of Liverpool was a Guinea Pig for mass testing. If they could get the most rebellious, contrarian city to roll over and fall for the bollocks then they could do it anywhere. It was also the place where the media is derided due to The Sun and their awful headlines about Hillsborough. Maybe it says something about football fans because I noticed virtually nothing about covid jabs in high level Rugby Union. Only Henry Slade came out and publicly declined the jab. Although it’s a war on all fronts as the local premiership venue is now cashless with digital ticketing.
Celebs
It was so disappointing watching them all fall like dominoes in 2020/2021. But a great personal realisation that they’re all false idols. There is something deeply sinister going on with Arianna Grande. She clearly has an eating disorder and has this weird tic. Her current boyfriend is very effeminate.
The obvious narrative seeding in films has ruined the ‘escapism’ of a trip to the cinema.
On EGI, as Leo's story about the Bond girl demonstrates, it is very difficult to identify the sex of some transgender people.
Schools are indoctrination centres. I know of another parent who also injected to their child being subjected to newsround propaganda. The seemingly innocuous and insidious introduction of propaganda is constant.
It's interesting that you mention Liverpool in relation to the involvement of football in the coercion of people to take the injections because for some reason Liverpool's manager at the time, Jürgen Klopp, engaged in that coercion. It is unclear to me whether he was merely a useful idiot. Football matches were also made vaccinated as society moved out of lockdown.
The scamdemic merely unveiled the true nature of many celebrities as their controllers called in their pound of flesh. And I agree, cinema is hopelessly tainted.
Personally I think Klopp is more useful grifter as opposed to useful idiot judging by his recent appearance in Trivago ads. His presence was elevated on TV at a time when Tiss and Trevor Sinclair were removed. This tells me he was rewarded for jab promotion.
I noticed that a handful of high profile players signaled their position through their girlfriends. I definitely remember Pickford’s girlfriend saying she was unvaccinated.
Sadly, I fear football is now just bread and circuses, which is a shame. I experienced this acutely when I was given someone’s season ticket to watch a game at Old Trafford. I felt miles away from the pitch, the atmosphere was lacking and I was surrounded by Japanese people.
I remember when clubs started trying to introduce jab passes. I wrote to Everton to say I’d never buy another ticket if they tried it. My dad tells me there is a landlord near Goodison who says all the same stuff I do, which in his eyes now validates what I say. Funny how it takes a pub landlord to legitimise my opinion. It’s a huge regret that 3 of my closest family members were propagandised (is that a word?) by the blob.
Enjoyed this again folks. Thanks for sharing it
I also really enjoyed this and the previous discussion. You are three of the sanest people on my screen! 👌 Looking forward to the next one.
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As you all rightly say, more than anything else the media’s constant propaganda, lies and cover-ups have been the main reason the majority of people believed (and still believe) there was a pandemic. Breaking people’s trust in the mainstream media is the biggest obstacle to opening their minds to the fact that most things are not what they seem.
Your point about being able to disagree with people and still have a civilised discussion is key.
Prior to 2020 if a friend/family member had mentioned they were going to have an injection or medication for travel and I told them I had read that it wasn’t necessary or made people sick I’m fairly certain their response would have been ‘that’s worrying, send me the link’ and not ‘are you a doctor? are you anti-science?’
Thanks for another really enjoyable and thought-provoking discussion 👍🏻
I only have a couple of personal stories relating to it, one was with a family member regarding her daughter having the HPV vaccine and the other was with a friend having malaria medication for a holiday. They both looked at the information and decided not to have them. However that was quite a few years ago and long before the relentless ‘trust the science’ propaganda of recent times.
That’s a good point about the regular childhood vaccine injuries, the truth has been almost completely suppressed for decades.
That's an interesting point Mick about advising people about injections prior to 2020. I think if it is true then it demonstrates the incredible power of the propaganda campaign of 2020. The only doubt about that is the fact that many parents had previously spoken up about the damage regular vaccines had done to their children and due to the propagated paradigm they were largely ignored and ridiculed.
I would warn people off rabies shots long before I realized the full extent of the scam. Some listened, but fear took most and they'd take "just to be safe"!
The ‘just to be safe’ reason is used by many parents when vaccinating their babies/children, they are under tremendous pressure to be seen as a ‘responsible parent’ by following the recommended vaccine schedule.
It’s interesting you mentioning rabies. I remember in the 1970’s there were adverts about the dangers of rabies, all the kids were petrified to go near a stray dog 😀
https://youtu.be/d-EeiAZfFB0?feature=shared
You'd think I would have seen a single case in 20 years working with wildlife and street dogs in the middle of a red zone.... Also Cujo and numerous horror movies reinforce the view. It's retarded and you'd think people would listen to someone who objectively knows what they're talking about, but no apparently GPs and academics in the UK glean more from Google than someone that's walked the talk their whole life [arms in air emoji]
Sorry for the super long comment!
Again a really fascinating and well articulated chat; it’s important you continue to have common sense discussion that isn’t misrepresented.
EGI
My own observation on this stems from the fact that I know a trans person reasonably well. The first time I met them was at a dinner; my daughter prompted a discussion about how dangerous it was for biological males to play womens rugby. I immediately noticed the eyes of the trans person widen. I was confused until about 6 months later I discovered that he (previously she) was trans. As soon as I realised, it was obvious (small frame, feminine features, emotional) but I would never have questioned their gender because of the way they presented (facial hair, cropped hair, drinking pints etc). Sadly they also have many unresolved mental and physical health issues, presumably from hormones. Therefore i knew exactly what Miri is getting at in her article.
Schools
I think the education system is absolutely key in pushing all the narratives they want future generations to believe. From my own experience of looking at my children’s homework, it was alarming (sexuality stuff in year 4) but the seemingly innocuous things; space, the environment, history are just vehicles to cement untruths in their minds. Me and another mum managed to get the Head to stop playing Newsround in assembly when Devi Sridhar was coercing children to get covid jabbed. One teacher played a speech by Greta and then started crying, my kids were eye rolling and piss taking so hard. Then every child in school came home with a book about the Queen’s Jubilee echoing Leo’s observations.
Football
It’s interesting what Francis says about footballers promoting the jab. I think this was deliberate as the fan base were the most likely to be nonchalant about a bad case of the flu. They needed them onside (no pun intended) which is why I believe the city of Liverpool was a Guinea Pig for mass testing. If they could get the most rebellious, contrarian city to roll over and fall for the bollocks then they could do it anywhere. It was also the place where the media is derided due to The Sun and their awful headlines about Hillsborough. Maybe it says something about football fans because I noticed virtually nothing about covid jabs in high level Rugby Union. Only Henry Slade came out and publicly declined the jab. Although it’s a war on all fronts as the local premiership venue is now cashless with digital ticketing.
Celebs
It was so disappointing watching them all fall like dominoes in 2020/2021. But a great personal realisation that they’re all false idols. There is something deeply sinister going on with Arianna Grande. She clearly has an eating disorder and has this weird tic. Her current boyfriend is very effeminate.
The obvious narrative seeding in films has ruined the ‘escapism’ of a trip to the cinema.
Looking forward to the next one. Thanks all x
Thanks Shouty.
On EGI, as Leo's story about the Bond girl demonstrates, it is very difficult to identify the sex of some transgender people.
Schools are indoctrination centres. I know of another parent who also injected to their child being subjected to newsround propaganda. The seemingly innocuous and insidious introduction of propaganda is constant.
It's interesting that you mention Liverpool in relation to the involvement of football in the coercion of people to take the injections because for some reason Liverpool's manager at the time, Jürgen Klopp, engaged in that coercion. It is unclear to me whether he was merely a useful idiot. Football matches were also made vaccinated as society moved out of lockdown.
The scamdemic merely unveiled the true nature of many celebrities as their controllers called in their pound of flesh. And I agree, cinema is hopelessly tainted.
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Shouty x
Personally I think Klopp is more useful grifter as opposed to useful idiot judging by his recent appearance in Trivago ads. His presence was elevated on TV at a time when Tiss and Trevor Sinclair were removed. This tells me he was rewarded for jab promotion.
I noticed that a handful of high profile players signaled their position through their girlfriends. I definitely remember Pickford’s girlfriend saying she was unvaccinated.
Sadly, I fear football is now just bread and circuses, which is a shame. I experienced this acutely when I was given someone’s season ticket to watch a game at Old Trafford. I felt miles away from the pitch, the atmosphere was lacking and I was surrounded by Japanese people.
I remember when clubs started trying to introduce jab passes. I wrote to Everton to say I’d never buy another ticket if they tried it. My dad tells me there is a landlord near Goodison who says all the same stuff I do, which in his eyes now validates what I say. Funny how it takes a pub landlord to legitimise my opinion. It’s a huge regret that 3 of my closest family members were propagandised (is that a word?) by the blob.
Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts (none of which I disagreed with). I appreciate your time in listening to ours. Good luck with it all!