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Albert Lucientes's avatar

Cortes arrived in Tenochtitlan Nov 1519. By Fall of 1520 , it is estimated some 40% of the population was dead from smallpox. The collapse of precolumbian America following the arrival of the Spanish was well documented by both the Natives and Spanish. Left out of the synopsis above is the fact that these diseases (previously unknown to them) spread much faster, (often by years) through well-established trading routes and densely populated cities than did the Spanish themselves.

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Francis O'Neill's avatar

Cortes is recorded as cutting off supplies and fresh water to Tenochtitlan and the Spanish provided an existential threat to the locals. Everything we think we know about the smallpox aspect is questionable and reinforces a medical paradigm that does not hold up to scrutiny.

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Albert Lucientes's avatar

Over the course of that and the following year the disease spread (so contagion must exist of we would not see this kind of spread of disease is all Im saying) like wildfire throughout the Native communities deep into Mexico that the Spaniards would not reach for many years.

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Mark Tokarski's avatar

Glad to see your mention of Mike Baillie and his book, "New Light on the Black Death." Mr. Baillee completely decimates the idea that rats were the cause by use of a simple strain of a thing called "logic." For one thing, the disease arrived in Iceland before ships could have brought it there. Presence of scads of dead fish and earthquakes lends credibility to the notion of cometary pollution, and Comet Negra was there before the disease. That has a Velikovsky tinge to it, so people shy away, but I regard Immanuel Velikovsky as a man who was pilloried and crucified not because he was wrong, but rather because he disclosed forbidden knowledge.

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Francis O'Neill's avatar

Baillies ideas do seem to cast a very different light in the plague, especially when viewed in conjunction with the apparent failures or flaws in virology. We often see the seemingly correct view being overlooked or under appreciated, and no more than in the past five years.

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Mick Wyatt's avatar

Very interesting and informative article with great links thanks Francis.

I’ve read quite a few books in the last few years re-the existence of viruses. It’s obvious that we have all been conditioned to accept that they exist and cause disease, when in reality history, and genuine science, proves otherwise.

‘It is not strange that health improves when the population gives up using diluted sewage as the principal beverage’ - Dr Thurman Rice 1932.

Also, many thanks for your continued questioning of the media & government on everything.

It’s better to risk being mistaken in the pursuit of truth than to blindly believe proven liars 👍🏻

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Mick Wyatt's avatar

Speaking of reading, I’m about half way through ‘Hidden History : The Secret Origins of the First World War’. I think it was you that recommended it 😄👍🏻

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Francis O'Neill's avatar

Yes it was. It's a bit of a slog but it does give you a sense of how much planning and subterfuge goes on, as well as how the media is used and how politicians are co-opted...and this was more than a century ago.

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Francis O'Neill's avatar

Thank you, Mick. I've been reading too. I was aware of terrain theory in 2020 and many of us suspected there was no evidence for viruses as causative agents of disease but it takes a while to go through all the information.

It's seems obvious when you see quotes like that about sewage or the decline in diseases that correlates to improved living conditions, that most if not illness must bear relation to our inner and outer environments.

Believing proven liars does not seem the smartest thing to do.

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ricci's avatar

Hello Francis,

I appreciate your hard work and extensive vocabulary. I would just like tonpointnou that Dr Willner did die about 2 years after the TV media stunt of injecting himself with whatever it was.

And I wondered if you were confusing scurvy with malaria. Malaria was thought to be caused by bad air, hence the name 'mal - air', until it was understood that deficiency in vitamin c was the cause.

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Francis O'Neill's avatar

Hi Ricci, Thank you. Yes, Dr Willner died of a heart attack but he did not test positive for HIV or develope AIDS. I have amended the sentence to clarify that point.

According to what I have read scurvy was also considered by sailors to be due to bad air. Beneath the article I wrote about it, the vitamin C connection was also questioned.

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